Stadtmiller: When do people go searching for a guru?

Vaswani: When the longing wakes up in the heart to realize the spirit, when man realizes that he is not nearly the body or the body-mind complex, that he is something more, when this realization dawns on man then he wants someone to help him realize what he is in reality. As it is, 99 percent of people feel that they are either the body or the body-mind complex. They don't go beyond the body mind, and they do not understand that the body is only a garment we have worn during our period on earth. The mind is an instrument that we have brought to do our work on the physical plane. When this realization dawns on man, that he is a spirit, then he realizes the need for a guru.